Grok 4.8 Release Date: 2.5T Model, What Musk Said (Oct 2026)
Grok 4.8 has no release date yet. Musk says it is a 2.5T model on a new C++ stack, next after Grok 4.7, then 4.9 and Grok 5. Confirmed vs claimed, updated live.
Quick answers
- When is the Grok 4.8 release date?
- There is no official date. As of Oct 29, 2026 Grok 4.8 is not released; Grok 4.7 (Sep 21, 2026) is xAI's current model.
- What do we know about Grok 4.8?
- Elon Musk said on Sep 14, 2026 that it is a 2.5T-parameter model trained on xAI's new C++ software stack, finishing pre-training that week and moving to RL.
- What comes after Grok 4.8?
- Musk's order is Grok 4.8, then Grok 4.9 ("probably Astra/Fable class"), then Grok 5.
- Will Grok 4.8 power Grok Bot?
- Musk said on Oct 7 that most @Bot requests will be handled by a lightning-fast version of Grok 4.8 once it ships.

Grok 4.8 has no release date yet, but every signal points to it being xAI's next model. Elon Musk described it on X on September 14, 2026 as "a 2.5T model trained with our new C++ software stack" that would "finish training this week and start RL." Reinforcement learning is the last stage before a release.
We track every Grok 4.8 claim on this page and will update the same URL the day it ships. For the bigger picture, see our Grok 5 release date tracker.
1. Grok 4.8 release date: confirmed vs claimed
Claim | Source | Status |
|---|---|---|
Grok 4.8 is 2.5T parameters | Musk on X, Sep 14, 2026 | Stated by Musk |
Trained on a new C++ software stack | Musk on X, Sep 14, 2026 | Stated by Musk |
Pre-training done that week, then RL | Musk on X, Sep 14, 2026 | Stated; RL status unknown |
"Noticeable improvement" over 4.7 | Musk on X, Sep 14, 2026 | Stated by Musk |
Order: 4.8, then 4.9, then Grok 5 | Musk on X, Sep 14, 2026 | Roadmap |
Fast Grok 4.8 will serve most @Bot requests | Musk on X, Oct 7, 2026 | Stated by Musk |
Seen in Cursor's server model list | Community reports | Unconfirmed |
Release date, price, context, benchmarks | None | Unknown |
2. When will Grok 4.8 come out?
xAI has been shipping about one model a month: Grok 4.6, then Grok 4.7 on September 21, 2026, one week after Musk's Grok 4.8 post. If pre-training wrapped in mid-September, a few weeks of RL and safety work would put Grok 4.8 in late October to November 2026. Prediction markets earlier this month put the odds of a launch before November near 57%.
Musk's own timelines often slip. Grok 5 was promised for late 2025, then Q1 2026, and is still in training. Treat any date as a forecast until xAI's news page or the API model list shows grok-4.8.
3. Grok 4.8 specs: what Musk said
Model | Released | Parameters | Notes |
|---|---|---|---|
Grok 4.6 | 2026 | ~1.5T (reported) | Previous flagship |
Grok 4.7 | Sep 21, 2026 | ~2.1T (reported) | $2 / $6 per 1M, 500K context |
Grok 4.8 | Not yet | 2.5T (Musk) | New C++ training stack |
Grok 4.9 | Not yet | Unknown | "Probably Astra/Fable class" |
Grok 5 | Not yet | Unknown | In training |
The C++ stack is the new part. It is xAI's rewritten training software, and Grok 4.8 is the first model trained on it. Musk has not said whether 2.5T counts total or active parameters, or how the model is split. He also said xAI needs to fix multimodal performance, so image and video input are the area to watch.
4. Grok 4.8 and Grok Bot
On October 7, 2026 Musk said most @Bot requests on X will be "handled by a lightning-fast version of Grok 4.8 when that comes out." So Grok 4.8 will likely show up first as a speed upgrade inside Grok Bot and X, not only as a new option on grok.com.
5. Grok 4.8 vs Grok 4.7
Grok 4.7 is what you can use today: a new larger base model, extended RL on long tasks, a 500K-token context window and API pricing of $2 / $6 per million tokens. Musk himself said 4.7 is "roughly on par with Opus 5.0" and that 4.8 will be a noticeable step up. No head-to-head scores exist yet.
Grok 4.8 status: still not out (Nov 5, 2026)
As of November 5, 2026 xAI has not released Grok 4.8. The xAI news page still lists Grok 4.7 (Sep 21) as the latest model, followed only by Grok Voice 3.0 on Oct 14. Nothing new has shipped in the API model list either.
The latest word came from Musk on October 30. Replying to a post that said xAI "barely has any SOTA models" apart from voice, he wrote on X: "I know it's taken longer than expected, but Grok 4.8 will not be a disappointment. We're not optimizing for benchmarks and I really don't care how Grok does on those, but it will be incredibly useful." The post passed 990,000 views.
- Delay admitted: "longer than expected" means the late-October window most people expected has passed.
- Benchmarks downplayed: expect xAI to pitch real-world usefulness, not leaderboard wins, at launch.
- Grok Bot first: the Oct 7 plan for a fast version to handle most Grok Bot requests still stands, so speed may be the first thing users notice.
- No date: neither xAI nor Musk has named a day. Community polls this week rank it against GPT-6.2 Astra, Claude Fable 5.5 and Gemini 4 Carbon for who ships next.
6. Where Sumus fits
Yes, you can work with Grok-style AI now instead of waiting. Sumus gives your team AI employees that run on top models, Claude, GPT, Gemini and more, inside one group chat. Hand them research, drafts and monitoring today, and switch models as new ones like Grok 4.8 land.
What we're watching
- grok-4.8 showing up in xAI's API model list or release notes.
- A Musk post confirming RL is done.
- Grok Bot speed changes on X that hint at the fast Grok 4.8.
FAQ
Is Grok 4.8 out?
No. As of Nov 5, 2026 xAI has not released Grok 4.8; Grok 4.7 (Sep 21) is still the latest model.
How many parameters does Grok 4.8 have?
2.5 trillion, according to Elon Musk on Sep 14, 2026.
Will Grok 4.8 cost more than Grok 4.7?
No price is announced. Grok 4.7 costs $2 / $6 per 1M tokens on the xAI API.
Is Grok 4.8 the same as Grok 5?
No. Musk's roadmap puts Grok 4.8 and Grok 4.9 before Grok 5.
Where will Grok 4.8 be available?
Likely grok.com, the Grok apps, X and the xAI API, and a fast version for Grok Bot requests.
Where is Grok 4.8?
Still in reinforcement learning. Musk said on Oct 30, 2026 that it has "taken longer than expected" but "will not be a disappointment".
Why is Grok 4.8 delayed?
xAI has not given a reason. It is the first model on xAI's new C++ training stack, and Musk says the focus is real-world usefulness rather than benchmarks.
Will Grok 4.8 beat Grok 4.7?
Musk says it will be a clear step up from Grok 4.7, which he put roughly on par with Opus 5.0. No scores have been published.
Sources
- Elon Musk posts on X, Sep 14 and Oct 7, 2026
- xAI news and Grok 4.7 launch post, Sep 21, 2026
- Prediction-market and community reports, Oct 2026. Read Oct 29, 2026.
Update log
- — Nov 5: Still not released. Added Musk's Oct 30 "longer than expected" post, current status and three FAQs.
- — Oct 29: First published. Grok 4.8 not released; tracking Musk's Sep 14 and Oct 7 statements.
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